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LAPD Names Streets to Avoid During Obama Visit

The Secret Service says which intersections to avoid as President Obama travels through the Century City-Westwood-Beverly Hills area Wednesday evening and Thursday morning.

 

Update [1:35 p.m.]: The Los Angeles Police Department is advising drivers to stay away from the following areas Wednesday evening and Thursday morning while President Obama travels through the Westwood-Beverly Hills area.

Wednesday evening:

  • The area around the intersection of Pico Boulevard and Avenue of the Stars from 4-6 p.m.
  • The area around the intersection of Wilshire Boulevard and Santa Monica Boulevard from 4-6 p.m.
  • The area around Sunset Boulevard and Beverly Glen Boulevard from 6-8:30 p.m.
  • The area around the intersection of Wilshire Boulevard and Santa Monica from 6-8:30 p.m.

Thursday morning:

  • The area around the intersection of Wilshire Boulevard and Santa Monica from 7:30-9:30 a.m.
  • The area around the intersection of Pico Boulevard and Avenue of the Stars from 7:30-9:30 a.m.

Sean Murphy with NBC Los Angeles reports that Obama's helicopter may land in Cheviot Hills instead of the Veterans Administration campus.

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    Update: Occupy 90210 is planning a protest in response to President Obama's fundraising event Wednesday evening at Will Rogers Memorial Park. Click here to read more on Beverly Hills Patch.

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    President Barack Obama will visit the Westwood-Beverly Hills area Wednesday afternoon for a fundraising event, likely bringing traffic with him to adjacent Westside neighborhoods.

    Update: If you happen to see the president's helicopter or motorcade, snap a quick photo or video and send it to your local Patch editor. Click here for more information or to upload your files.

    Los Angeles City Councilman Bill Rosendahl, who chairs the Transportation Committee, said Obama's travel to an evening fundraiser is likely to cause some delays along the major east-west routes of Santa Monica, Wilshire and Sunset boulevards.

    But he said that the delays will not be terrible.

    The president will land at LAX around 3 p.m. and will be flown by helicopter to the Veterans Administration Hospital near UCLA. Around 5 p.m., his motorcade will pass through Westwood, likely on Sunset or Wilshire boulevards, to Holmby Hills for a fundraising event at the home of soap opera star Bradley Bell, reports TotalTrafficLA.com.

    Road closures have not been announced yet, but traffic is expected to be a little lighter than usual compared with the president's previous visits, according to TotalTrafficLA.com. Police may be picking up barricades as soon as the motorcade passes, alleviating street congestion.

    The Foo Fighters are scheduled to perform at Bell's home and to attend the reception with the president. Tickets for the concert cost $1,500. Tickets to the dinner with the president cost $35,800.

    The president will stay overnight at the Beverly Hilton, arriving around 8-9 p.m.

    Thursday morning rush hour traffic could also be more severe than usual as Obama leaves his hotel for a 7 a.m. breakfast fundraiser at the Corona del Mar home of Jeff and Nancy Stack, according to Bruce Gillman of the Los Angeles Department of Transportation.

    Secret Service Special Agent Joseph Beaty said traffic delays "are not something we ignore... We want to be as least intrusive as we have to be."

    Rosendahl said he conferred with White House staff, the Secret Service and Los Angeles police officials about Obama's visit and was assured the security will use so-called "soft closures," shutting down and re-opening streets as Obama's motorcade comes and goes, rather than extended closures of several possible routes to his destination.

    "It will be a very, very un-impactful, quick trip," Rosendahl said.

    — City News Service contributed to this report.

    Related Topics: Beverly Hilton, Holmby Hills, President Obama, and Traffic
    Will the president's schedule interrupt your day? Tell us in the comments.

    Insider

    12:26 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Costs $35,800 per person to attend. Who's going?

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    Jim

    12:57 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Liberal Kool aid drinkers

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    Marie Cunningham

    1:34 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    @Jim Are you implying that Republicans don't hold fundraisers? That fundraisers are only geared towards Liberal Kool-Aid drinkers or that the GOP doesn't have fundraisers when it holds the White House? Fundraisers are a fact of life in American politics. Ranting about it and blaming Liberals won't make them go away.

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    Alex Daniels

    1:37 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    the 1 perc, uh, I mean the 99 percenters Obama is fighting so hard for!

    Sean McCarthy

    12:53 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Mr. President: Please stop it with the visits! You disrupt our traffic and make people less likely to vote for you. You act more like the 1% than the 99%.

    Why not fly into Ontario Airport instead. It is 40 miles east of LA. Their economy is hurting and they could use the landing fees, lodging fees and dining fees your 200+ entourage will need to pay for while accompanying you on your fundraising visit.

    You can have all of your well heeled friends drive or take their private jets out to meet you in Rancho Cucamonga or Ontario Mills. It would be an eye opener for the very important people attending your $35,000 a plate dinner some good to see how your recovery is working out.

    The bottom line Mr. President, do us all a favor and just stay away from LA until the city can begin paying its bills in a timely manner. We can't afford to pay the police overtime.

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    Jim

    12:56 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    You speak for many of us.. I would suggest that he stay in DC and do his job, but perhaps he is doing less damage away from his office..

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    me

    10:21 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    BOO HOO HOO.....i'm cryin my eyes out for you that you have to put up with traffic a few times a year during a visit from our nation's leader........isn't it just awful??.....what a joke!!

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    Maureen Levinson

    10:21 pm on Friday, February 17, 2012

    Excuse me, “me” but you obviously do not live on the Westside of Los Angeles! We put up with gridlock traffic every day due to not only construction with the widening of the 405 and rebuilding bridges (all at the same time!), but also with underground pipe replacement on what seems to be every major street and on our short-cut streets. This, “me” has been going on for nearly two years! The VA on Wilshire sometimes closes its gates (especially when the President is here because he lands at Barrington Park) so there is no relief from this gridlock. Whenever there is an advisory that there is yet another Presidential visit, our school cancels all after school activities and athletic events because there is no way the teams can make it to their sports venues. I think Sean McCarthy has the right idea about moving the fundraising venues to other locations. It would and give us Westsiders (and Los Angeles’s budget) a break--at least until construction is finished.

    Sean McCarthy

    12:56 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Before Gary Miller pipes in, I would give the same advice to any president thinking of visiting LA, during a depression to do fund raising.

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    Jim

    1:41 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    This is ALL that he does.. what is this, his 6th fundraiser in LA in a year that the taxpayers are footing? His # of fundraisers are triple what any other President has done.. and we are paying the bill...My question is this...If He is so great, why does he need to fundraise so often? We should all knoiw it if he is such a superstar...

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    Marie Cunningham

    1:47 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Taxpayers foot the bill when presidents travel, be they Democrats or Republicans. Would you feel better if taxpayers were footing the bill so the president could visit his ranch in Texas?

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    joninla

    12:39 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Sounds like some 'sour grapes' and disappointment that it is not a Republican doing what every single President has done while in office.

    Besides, the cost to protect the Current President is higher due to the Fanatical Right Wing. So Jimmy Boy .... Your Party, its followers and their threats upon the president are COSTING US EXTRA TO PROTECT THE PRESIDENT.

    You want to make the bill fit the consumer? Then the extraordinary costs (and traffic is all yours and the Republicans who court the far Right, including the violent radicals.

    Go work those numbers, make a rubber stamp of the total, and then stamp your forehead so we don't forget.

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    Shaune Steele

    2:15 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Some of you guys need to lighten up! No matter your political leanings, I think we all have to admit that President Obama comes to LA to fund raise A LOT. And it IS irritating to be stuck in a never-ending traffic jam so president's can fund raise. Just because someone posts a complaint doesn't mean some of you (and you know who you are!) have to start pulling out the rude phrases, like "Fanatical Right Wing" (in caps no less) and intimating that people who are pissed off about Obama's traffic jams are right wing crazies who are threatening the president. Geez, do you have to go there? AND then playing the race card about Bush being white and Obama being black. What a tired non-starter. Kind of weird to get that wound up over a couple of postings by folks who are tired of the traffic jams. Take a chill pill. Note: This is the first time I've even seen any postings about anything on The Patch. It's fun to read the comments.

    Jim

    2:04 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Yes!!! Bush was great.... anything is better than this guy..

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    Marie Cunningham

    2:16 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    When you are blinded by ideology—from the right or the left—there is no hope for constructive dialogue. Sending countless Americans to war is no mark of greatness. Nor is spending so much money that when you leave office, the economy falls into a downward spiral.

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    joninla

    6:46 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Bush had one thing that Obama doesn't and never will. Bush had white skin. If you think Bush is great - I'll sell you a piece of the Brooklyn bridge - that's the kind of deal Bush did to the American Economy and the American People.

    I think rather you are expounding your racially motivated opinion by referring to a replacement of our current President by "anything" - what would make anyone refer to a person as a 'thing' to be replaced? Racism would.

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    WeHoOne

    10:39 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Pres Obama has something Pres. Bush never had - a brain.

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    Lori

    2:39 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Jim u got that right!!. It is good to know that I am not alone on disliking NOBAMA visits here.

    Jim

    2:18 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    You mean like subsidizing the chevy volt with 10k / car of taxpayer dollars..(which only 600 sold last month). or solyndra, or having two unions with offices in the west wing?

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    Marie Cunningham

    2:26 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    It is unconscionable to compare lives lost in war with efforts to subsidize a car. But you seem fine with spending taxpayer money on war. Maybe you should enlist.

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    joninla

    6:50 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    At least get your (stupid) examples correct. Solyndra was a terrible mistake, that ws voted on by congress with more Republican Votes than Democratic Votes leadind to that bad decision.

    Solyndra - was huge (but less than nomial in terms of relative size of the budget/deficit) and would not have ocurred but for the Republican who voted for it.

    Sean McCarthy

    2:22 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Marie: Which tax payers do you think will pay for the local security during his trip? I resent my home town having to pay for cops and firemen to stop traffic and disrupt all our lives for the benefit of any out of town, fundraising politicians, especially when the city is broke. By the way, Texas doesn't have 11.1% unemployment.

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    Marie Cunningham

    2:33 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Your argument is veiled in your dislike of Democrats. Politicians will always come to L.A. Perhaps you should move to Texas.

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    joninla

    7:00 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    The cry of the ignorant. "I don't want my tax dollars paying for that!"

    The democracy we live in is actually a system of a Republic - A Government where our elected representatives make votes for the people they represent.

    Party Affiliations aside, everyone, every single person in the United States, feels that way about some tax spending or another. We don't get the right to decided which specific tax dollars are spent on any specific expense. I bet when your pulled over for a traffic violation you give the "My tax dollars pay your salary!" Genius!

    Your 'home town' happens be the Second Largest Urban Region in the United States, and Democratic or Republican, the visit of any President brings along with it deals made with State Representatives that will benefit the State, the Cities and even your complaining wallet.

    You want your home town completely ignored by a sitting President - then your home town will lose out on opportunities it would otherwise not be in the running for receiving.

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    Lori

    2:44 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Sean you are 100% on the money.

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    A different Paul

    3:02 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    @joninla -well said. I wish more people approached things in such an objective and clearly thought out manner.

    Jim

    2:25 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Especially 6 times in a year.. This guy is so corrupt it is mind boggling...I live in beverly Hills...I cannot even cross the street when he is here..even walking..It is ridiculous...especially for an empty suit like him...

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    joninla

    7:03 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    You know, "Barbara Walters" had the exact same experience in NY City trying to cross the Street to get to work (studio) to do the View.

    I think Barbara Walters learned her lesson to plan her own scheduled the next time the President Visits NY, to avoid the known problem that will accompany such a visit.

    If you get stuck this time, it all "your bad" - and kinda shows 'you will never learn' that or much of anything else.

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    Lori

    2:46 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    I sure hope many on this blog show up to the polls in November and vote this "empty suit" out of office.

    Whistlin'Pete

    2:26 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Anyone who thinks Bush was great is a moron.

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    joninla

    7:07 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Not necessary. They could be simply Delusional. A delusional person is not 'a moron'. So you need to broaden your definition.

    Also, I using the word "think" anywhere near a reference to a person praising the former President Bush creates too much confusion and could be read to mean there is thought involved in the devotion the Republicans & their Presidents.

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    WeHoOne

    10:37 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    ...and anyone who thinks Bush is a moron, is great

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    joninla

    12:34 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Also (I really hate such all encompassing charges) there are quite a few who do think Bush was great who are neither stupid or uneducated.

    There were several hundreds who, as a direct result of Bush's Presidency, found themselves hovering in and around the Billionaires Club, which they wouldn't have been able to get near without Bush. They think he was great, and I wouldn't find any fault in their reasoning.

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    Shaune Steele

    2:21 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Oh puleeze. Calling people names because they hold a different opinion than you is scary! (and silly!) Can't you come up with something better than that?

    Whistlin'Pete

    2:28 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    All the crap people gave Obama in his first 2-3 years was for outcomes/situations spawned directly from Bush's work while in office...Everything is getting better (slowly) now, because Barack's policies are finally taking place of Bush's old, moronical doings.

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    Alex Daniels

    1:43 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Bullsh*t....as 5 dollars a gallon approaches, Obamas economic house of cards will topple in the next 9 months.... Propaganda can only sustain a false economy so long....We are STILL in a depression and the second shoe hasnt even dropped yet....

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    Whistlin'Pete

    2:59 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    hey Alex guess what? I guarantee it doesn't.

    Jim

    2:29 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    You mean the same war that virtually every democrat voted for until things started to go south and then they bailed on him, just like the hypocrites that they are... and a moron..No , I am smart enough to know that the media is very corrupt and they carried the dems pom poms for years and they choose to report certain events a specific way and choose not to report certain events at all....They are doing it now..it is unbelievable what they are not reporting now to keep their annointed one in office..

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    Jim

    2:33 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    One Person... Barney Frank..He did it all..Bush had Nothing to do with it.... and no, things are not better..They are cooking the books... 1.5 million left the job seeking group ..Unemployment will be stated at 8.5% and really 17% in 3 months....It is 16.8% now... They just pick and choose their criteria...

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    Whistlin'Pete

    2:34 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Yeah Jim, the media is a product of the liberal-propaganda machine...every watched Fox News. I love how Republicans act like the downtrodden and held-down and targeted when a democratic president is in office...like a republican would be the solution to all our problems when it was clearly 8 years of a idiot republican that lead us to where we stand now. Bush messed us up, Barack is trying to help, Republicans are holding us all back because it's not their guy doing the helping.

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    Alex Daniels

    2:01 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Obama is failing....Why on earth would a sitting president be more concerned about fund raising than putting this nation back on track is beyond me...keep whistling Pete, but those of us that actually work hard and pay too much in taxes as it is, are hardly impressed...

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    Whistlin'Pete

    3:03 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Hey Alex, I work hard too 50+ hours a week every week. And you can thank Bush for where we are currently. You'll have Obama to thank 4-5 years from now when the country begins to climb out of the hole the Bush Administration put us in.

    Jim

    2:35 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Of course they will..Hypocrites love to hang with other hypocrites..I am in entertainment.. I see it everyday...

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    joninla

    12:28 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    That I agree with. Hypocrites do gather around the same watering hole. And you are a form of entertainment, the kind we see daily. As for your profession, you couldn't possibly be more vague or pose a less interested subject.

    joninla

    3:31 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    It is a sadly ironic state of affairs where the in the old days, the President coming to visit you City was an exciting event and people felt pride in being chosen.

    Today - with our digital lives mixing with out non-digital need to live with routine daily traffic, I think we have a 'new world of though' a Presidential Visit is no longer a rare opportunity and an event to look forward to, but rather an obligation and need to tolerate the President visiting the second largest metropolitan area in the United States.

    Whatever is says about our priorities, every single Republican making issue of the disaster it will cause and the cost of the Presidents visit, only just announces their lack of any real issue they can assert about anything the Obama Administration did, does or will do.

    Pick your fights. This is not a political issue. Any president of any party would visit Los Angeles several times during their administration.

    The attempt to politicize the dynamics of travel requirements shows the irrational commitment of some republicans to ensure that Obama does get reelected, and with picking at non-issues like this, it shows how the Republican Platform is down to "they are racists and don't want a black president".

    Find a rel issue, or else acknowledge anti-Presidential hatred is race based bigotry.

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    Shaune Steele

    2:29 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    You don't know me. Calling me a racist bigot because I might no longer be as supportive of President Obama as I once was is pretty out-of-control and intolerant. This thread has gone from bitching and moaning about the president causing a traffic jam to a few posters calling others "race-based bigots." Totally insulting.

    Chloe Ross

    5:36 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Wow-look what I missed! All these GOP posters. Well - bully for Barack. Just hope the City of WeHo does not decide to demolish another landmark using Barack's visit as cover. Particularly as he is not coming to WeHo. If I recall the Fickett Library bit the dust under cover of an Obama visit.

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    joninla

    6:32 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Chloe - That may not be either a commentary of the past, or a comic reminder of fact ..... You might (Yikes!) be correct. There may very likely, be some pre-planned City Hall action based on 'the opportunity' that the Traffic Nightmere will bring.

    Chloe Ross

    5:37 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Oh and jon - your observation is spot on. White GOPs raise funds like crazy.

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    Chloe Ross

    9:42 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Oh - right Barack is half black and half white. I always forget.

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    Jenna Chandler

    10:48 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    Los Angeles City Councilman Bill Rosendahl told City News Service tonight that the traffic delays "won't be terrible." We've updated the story with his comments.

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    Rudy Garza

    11:15 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

    The Ciy Council will be avaluating City Mgr., Paul Arevalo's performance during a Closed Session of City Council this Thursday, February 16, 2012, 6:30pm at City Hall. Here is the link for the agenda. http://weho.org/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=9944 There will be a Public Comment prior to their private discussion. Please people, keep it civil, but let the City Council know how you feel that the highest paid employee, over $300,000 (higher than the same job in LA wih millions of residents) We need a City Manager who will tell us the truth at all times and take our input and USE it in future planning of our parks, our facilities and our neighborhoods.

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    joninla

    12:49 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    I don't think I understand this? Where did this investigation of the City Manager suddenly come from? And what do we know about the City Council (self-preservationists with a record of intentionally deceiving the Residents) holding a "Closed Session"?

    We are not even told the real scoop during regular open session meeting of the Council.

    Finally, as for the admonishment to the residents about 'civility' - It is our Mayor who has problems controlling unprofessional and cuss ridden explosions of rage when he doesn't like something.

    All I am aware of is a bunch of people, mature in age and demeanor patiently waiting to get 2 minutes and then cut off - without any tantrum or "F" words spewing out.

    Chloe Ross

    1:07 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    If the meeting is secret in the Star Chamber what is the public supposed to say?

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    joninla

    1:15 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Seriously, I don't know what this means. But if the Council is looking for a fall guy, I'd rather everyone who has been there since the early years, leave in a televised ceremony - with all the appropriate hoopla - appropriate for an arrest for years of illegal activity while elected to office.

    I mean that from a practical standpoint and for the City's Financial Future. We should see prosecution, which, starting this year, would prevent the Sweet-Salaried People any right to what has to be an even Sweeter Retirement Package.

    The reformation acts passed by California this year should be used as a financial cutting tool, and a real PLAN FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS - including the cutting of huge pensions for people guilty of robbing from the City for the First 25 years.

    Wendy

    12:08 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    You would think Obama would be in favor of the Canadian Pipeline. It would help take us offline from supporting Terrorist. Everytime we fill up at the pump we support a terrorist somewhere. Better to give it to the Canadians and get the work a pipeline would generate. The Alaskan pipeline turned out great and everyone made money.

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    Whistlin'Pete

    1:07 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    "Oh the pipeline could bring jobs and get us off the Middle East's teet for oil." You think people would learn. After the BP blowout off the gulf, the leak in the Alaska pipeline, the million-gallon oil spill in Michigan and about a million other mishaps and malfunction you think people would learn that building a giant pipeline to carry dirty oil from Canada to Texas is a horrible idea. Why the heck would we want to approve/fund something like this? Why not put that money and effort into more sustainable sources of energy with less risks/potential for danger or disruption of the environment. Why don't we have a major push to get off the oil teet all together?

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    A different Paul

    2:57 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    I think also part of the problem was that the right put the pipeline into the tax bill which had a deadline on it. The deadline didn't allow for researching something that could be an environmental disaster if not done right. If the right was serious about getting it approved they wouldn't have tacked it onto an unrelated bill knowing it would fail given the time frame

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    MarkD

    3:47 pm on Monday, February 20, 2012

    Wendy once again shows her utter ignorance. The #1 country importing oil to the U.S. currently? It's Canada! So tell me about all those Canadian terrorists, Wendy! Do you EVER actually educate yourself about ANYTHING before you mouth off with some BS?

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    Alex Daniels

    3:54 pm on Monday, February 20, 2012

    Yeah so? What's your point? Saudi Arabia is second, Oman is 15th....To think that oil revenue has nothing to do with the financing terror is utterly stupid.....

    Kamran

    12:38 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Marie & Jim: There are a few things that you both need to realize (especially you Marie, as a P.S. Major). First, all of the politics in the U.S. has been orchestrated to create face offs between left and right. The more centrist you are, the more you become marginalized. This is evident as the spin from the media only focuses in on allegations against extremists from both sides. Both of you appear to be indulging on this artificially induced gerrymandering on the populace.

    Second, ideologies aside, it is apparent that regardless of what party our president comes from, the same agenda of growing the federal powers and weakening the states have/will continue. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I am convinced that special interest from external sources (Israeli Cultural Legions, etc), Multi National Corps, NGO's, and such have a greater impact on reducing our constitution to just a piece of paper. Our division through political differences have separated the country from its true virtues of liberty, freedom, and prosperity. Right vs. Left is NOT the central issue. It is a nationalists view that most of the country is being laid to waste by a larger agenda that is outside of our control.

    A president is an excellent source of blame. Just remember that the presidency is NOT larger then any one man. Any sociologist can amass that groups of people respond to a populist favorably when the system is designed to channel info through brilliant media systems.

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    catman

    6:19 am on Thursday, February 16, 2012

    The "Israeli Cultural Legions ? " Is that a band ?

    Wendy

    1:32 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Whistlin'Pete

    The Canadian pipeline is better than buying from Terrorist who want to cut off your head. It is also above ground. It turns out that Green Energy was a hoax. The world cannot run on windmills and volts. Green energy is not sustainable. Solyndra was a huge failure. We have to fight these Endless Mideast wars because people like you will not allow North America to drill their own oil.

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    Whistlin'Pete

    3:05 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Hey Wendy I/people like me have ZERO power or effect on what North America does. You think I'm the one holding back this entire operation? North America has the abilities to do whatever it so chooses. I just happen to disagree.

    Chloe Ross

    1:49 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Why are we on another Patch? Has anyone considered that the sun is still a major source of sustainable energy?

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    Marie Cunningham

    1:51 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Hell Ms. Ross,
    Stories that affect multiple Patches are shared between those sites so that everyone gets the information they need as quickly as possible.
    Best,
    Marie

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    Alex Daniels

    1:54 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Oh yes? Please site all the cost effective solor undertakings currently in place globally....

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    Paul Chavez

    4:57 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    I just saw a convoy of helicopters headed south along Venice Beach. Was that Chopper One?

    Chloe Ross

    1:56 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Thanks Marie!
    Alex - I simply mentioned the sun. Oil seems to be very $$$ and tends to spill. I am not interested in verbal fisticuffs.

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    Chloe Ross

    2:07 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Mr. Daniels - it appears you are a Republican. Have fun with that.

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    Alex Daniels

    2:16 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Miss Ross, it appears that you dont have a "real" job...I envy your insulation....If you disagree, try me, please tell me what you do for a living?

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    Alex Daniels

    2:29 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Please dont take this the wrong way Miss Ross, but whether ones a home engineer (what a laugh), municipal union worker, trust family recipient, media related limo lib, or supported by a working spouse, that's where the liberal BS usually stops ..No surprise..Have a nice day.

    Chloe Ross

    2:21 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    @Shaun Steele - valid points. Thanks for seeing it for what it is. Anyone remember the Ronald Reagan cortege a few years back. Do you think it too caused traffic problems?

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    Gary Avrech

    2:29 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Anyone who honestly believes that oil that comes from the Middle East, the U.S., Canada, Mexico, South America or anywhere else is not sold on the open market is just plain dumb (or a follower of Fox "News"). I for one would rather see the exploitation of land and the environment occur elsewhere.

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    Whistlin'Pete

    3:09 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Gary I fully agree. If we're going to rape and pillage lands in the name of oil...I too would prefer it not be our own soil. (Though I would really prefer it to be no soil at all. As, while it is hard to educate people like Alex Daniel, green energy does exist and at our fingertips).

    Lynn Russell

    2:39 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Children, children this was merely an update on likely traffic issues. If you have a specific complaint please address Obama's staff,the Bells or Rosendahl instead of annoying the rest if us with supposition abount an "investigation of Aravalo", secret meetings and what not.
    Opinions are just that....opinions but please get the facts straight

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    Chloe Ross

    2:40 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Mr. Daniels - keep guessing but don't feel the need to share - I know who I am.

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    Alex Daniels

    3:05 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Miss Ross, you dont need to share, but it doesnt mean I couldn't guess...remember that term from the Milton Bradley game "Battleship"? "I sunk your battleship!"...lol

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    Chloe Ross

    3:32 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    I have never played Battleship.

    Gary Kavanagh

    2:48 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    If you drive a car, then you are complicit in the traffic problem, stop complaining about it. We could have better, faster, more timely transit service, safer bike routes, and thus more viable alternatives to driving for every trip, which in the end actually benefits drivers we well by shifting competition for finite street space to more space efficient modes. But the incessant whining of the motorist is in a league of it's own and thus the majority of our society's resources are devoted to catering to the wishes and whims of subsidizing driving.

    As pointed out by others, it used to be a point of pride when a president came to visit. Now everything, all of life, and death, is reduced to the calculus of how it will impact traffic. Crash on the 405 kills 3, it's about the traffic delay, not the human lives impacted. It is unsurprising given that America values motorist travel time more than human life that our rates of traffic death per mile is unparalleled among our industrial democratic peers in the world. It's disgusting.

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    A different Paul

    2:49 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    I think Obama has done a great job considering he has a congress that blocks everything constructive. His greatest weakness is that he sought consensus when he would have accomplished more if he had been a bully like the previous administration. The economy is bouncing back now that his policies are taking effect. If a little bit of traffic inconvenience results from efforts to keep him in office it is more than a fair trade off. I don't want tea-party tools in the White House to give more tax breaks to the CEOs making millions of dollars while laying off workers.

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    Whistlin'Pete

    3:12 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Paul, couldn't have said it better myself. The problem is not Obama but in fact a pissy Congress tied up in party politics. But we are starting to see the beginnings of the change promised and necessary as his policies are starting to take effect. I'll take traffic all day every day if it means keeping a slimey tea-partier out and Obama in for 4 more years.

    eyewris

    3:02 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    WHatever anyone's politic beliefs are, Obama visits LA more than any other President before him. He also comes to the same area every time he visits. For the one who said that people have to deal with traffic a few times out of the year has got to be some country bumpkin as Westwood traffic is horrible daily, so with Obama here its 10 times worse. So i'd like to see your reaction when it takes 6 to 8 hours to get home. When Obama does visit, he tends to pick 'rush hour' to appear. As for the one who says to plan ahead, some people have to work for a living. So if you work at UCLA, you will know that all the streets listed are the streets that surround UCLA. So that means you cant go home because Obama's visit has just shut down travel outside of UCLA. If you don't live or work in the area, you shouldnt comment on the type of traffic Obama causes as you have NO CLUE..... So get a CLUE!

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    Rico99

    3:03 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    I find all this pro Obama vs. pro Bush banter completely humorous. Anyone who thinks either of these middle level managers has done a great job in the Office of the President of the United States has sampled way too much Kool Aid. The medai has done their job getting all of you to gang up on one another. Both Obama and Bush play for the same team and Mitt Romney or Hillary Clinton would take us down the same road, just in a different manner. The only solution, in my humble opinion is to elect an individual who lknows monetary policy and speaks the truth...Ron Paul. Say what you will, that he is not electable, his policies are too radical, blah blah blah...he is the only one in Congress who follows the Constitution and the RULE OF LAW.

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    Wendy

    3:36 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Good Post Rico. Either side are a joke. You both go down two different roads and end up in the same place. The right uses the same complaints that the left used against Bush 4 years ago. The left does the same. Look at all these 1 percenters who are donating heavily to Obama. They expect to get something in return like Solyndra Contracts.

    These Democrats do not want to vote for Ron Paul because he has a no foreign war policy. In the end they are just a bunch of neocons. Obama is pulling a President Nixon where he is dragging out leaving Afghanistan until he gets reelected.

    Wendy

    3:41 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    If gas goes up to $5 per gallon you can see a Republican in office in 2012. That's the bottom line. If gas goes to 5 and Obama still holds onto preventing the Canadian Pipeline the majority of voters are going to be pissed off.

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    Whistlin'Pete

    3:41 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    No one used war to better his own standing as President than Bush. Anyone remember the "Mission Accomplished" hoopla on the carrier when we hadn't even accomplished anything?

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    Wendy

    3:58 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Whistlin'Pete

    What has Obama accomplished???????????????????????????

    He passed this Obamacare where if I am 75 years old and need a new Heart or Liver I have to be passed over for an illegal alien who is 50 years old who needs the same organs.

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    Maureen Levinson

    4:33 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Thank you, BRENTWOOD PATCH, for these updates. Between picking up children from school and shuttling them around to their various activities in the area, your updates are invaluable to me. Thank you.

    I do wish President Obama's people would show mercy on us West-siders--these frequent visits around school dismissal and after school activities are aggravating, to say the least.

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    Rico99

    4:37 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Wendy - You are right about Obamacare, but don't get sucked back into the argument with the other side. We as AMERICANS should realize what is going on in our country, but sadly, 90% of the people sleep in either cognitive dissonance or doublethink and dare not take a stand.

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    Wendy

    6:11 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Obama said there would be no Illegal Aliens covered under Obamacare. That is a clever trick because according to the democrat party there is no such thing as an illegal alien. Everyone is a citizen of the world. Therefore illegal aliens do not exist so they are covered.

    Lori

    5:11 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Rico99: I really wish there was a "LIKE" or "LOVE" button on here.

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    Gary Avrech

    6:05 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Great post Whistlin'Pete. I hope everyone clicks on your link.

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    Wendy

    6:08 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Is that a porn link? It has bad words in it

    Chloe Ross

    6:13 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Great post about health care. Why does it seem so ugly to folks. Civilized countries throughout the globe have it. And they laugh at us. I plan to go to India if I need a new liver.

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    Wendy

    7:15 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    You got to be kidding. This is an all time classic. Civilized people are laughing at the USA? Who Greece? England? France? Have you ever been to Spain and seen what a failure that is. You have to get on a waiting list for heathcare and die in the process. Try traveling to 50 different countries and you will see that USA healthcare is still number 1. You actually have to go there. You cannot take the word of actors who move to Hollywood and tell you that their country is better than your country. Go to India and come back with a liver from a mule.

    All of these countries that dare to laugh at the USA have strict immigration policies. They take care of their own first. It's not like the USA where we are treating 20 million illegal aliens for free and trying to find parts for them.

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    catman

    6:20 am on Thursday, February 16, 2012

    Why don't you go now ? With this city as overcrowded as it already is I doubt anybody will miss you ?

    Chloe Ross

    7:20 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    Well - they laugh. Take it or leave it - but my friends in foreign countries are appalled at our healthcare (or lack thereof) system.
    I have lived abroad and so does my sister and has for 20+.

    I do not believe mule livers are used in India

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    Wendy

    7:25 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    I will laugh/ European Health Care sucks--Been there done that. Ever wonder why these people are in the USA in the first place? The next time they tell you about how American health care sucks try asking them why are you here. Especially if they are Canadian. In the USA any illegal Alien can walk over the border and start getting "WORLD CLASS" heathcare for free. No other country in the world does that. They will send your tushy home.

    joninla

    8:42 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    TO WHISTLIN PETE RE: oil pipeline

    Your suggestions for using that money (the cost of the pipleine) is carzy talk.

    There is the immutable laws (like laws of physics - they just are, no room for alternative opinion) makling both your general idea of investmg in renewable solar, and you specific suggestion to use the pipeline money to accomplish you 'impossible' suggrstions.

    it is physically impossible to power the united states from free renewable energy until the mega oil companies can no lomger make massive profits of the american dependence on oil and the Canada project being the only significant new oil reserves, which the oill companoes own.

    nobody can power a country effiiently or with anything but crude oil with the law of rule in the country - MONEY CONTROLS GOVERNMENT. WHO CONTROLS MONEY, THE PEOPLE (corporations) WHO POSSESS THE TIGEST HOLD ON THE MOST NECESSARY BASE SOURCE OF A COUNTRYS FUNCTIONING INFRASTRUCTURE.

    "Going Green" sounds nice but does not address the corporate control over our ability to even try to add (not even chang to, just to add in addition) any alternate that would make our enegry needs solved by a choice other than oil.

    Nobody can overcome the power of the oil industry, let alone anyone running for a position of power in the united states.

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    Chloe Ross

    11:15 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    @Wendy - beg to differ as this was not my experience at all in the UK. But I also don't care to debate the issue with you. My opinion differs but I have not been sick in enough countries to be an expert.

    joninla

    8:58 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    TO A NEW PAUL RE: CONGRESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITY

    For all the haters of Obama for no good reason, for un true reason, or even good reason .... To boldly proclaim 'anyone is better than Obama' means one person, the Republican Nominee.

    if 'anyone but Obama would be better' is truly the only reason so many have claimed, the one sure thing is there is one person, no question, that would be worse for the ecomomy ....The Republicans in general, any of the nominess being specific, based on what?
    - The republicans spent 8 years to ruin the country
    - "crybaby" Boener has done nothing to help improve the Republican led Destruction, and has repeatedly acted to make the economic situation worse and derail any attempt Obama has made to fix our depression.

    The Congress past and the current ongoing Republucan control is proof to anyone with the slightest ability to reson and think, that A Republican President is the one sure thing 'worse than Obama' for our economy, for our country and most of the wallets of the die hard Republican Posters on this blog. Not one articulated rational reason has been proffered

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    Wendy

    9:09 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    If the world went to Solar Engergy it would go into mass starvation within a week. There is not a converter available to feed and power 7 billion people. Until there is a converter(s) for wind and solar the world needs oil.

    The people will not tolerate living in the stone age. Just throwing money at green energy firms will not make it happen. They will just emerge to suck up all the research money. It's currently a waste of time to talk about saving the earth in small green incriments when you have countries like India breedling like rabbits. You have to fix the rabbits first. They are making the world's water supply filthy. What good is green energy anyway when the world is on a collision course because of overpopulation. Instead of Invading Arab nations we should invade 3rd world breeder nations and force them to not breed like rabbits. The Catholic Church is in on this too. They promote the mass breeding so they can get their numbers higher.

    Take a look at Africa. I have been watching the same donate to Africa commercials 40 years. They always show starving pregnant women with flies landing on them. Where are the men? The more you feed these starving nations the more they breed. We just grow pain and suffering.

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    Chloe Ross

    11:21 pm on Friday, February 17, 2012

    Wendy - you need to get out more.

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    Alex Daniels

    12:55 am on Saturday, February 18, 2012

    With all due respect Chloe, maybe you need live a "real" life....

    Wendy

    11:04 am on Saturday, February 18, 2012

    Alex,

    Well Said. She really does need a life. Too much time at home sitting in front of the computer. She seems to have bully tendencies and Queen Bee asspirations. Her blogs are laughable. The last one had every international theater hall she could find on the web. She generally finds time to squeeze in the letters LGBT on every lengthy rant. She seems to try to turn every blog into a masterpiece of creative writing. She makes fun of the way other people write when her own writings would get a fail. She needs to learn to get her story on 1 page and less ramble.

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    Ali

    3:42 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012

    Wendy, you advocate invading a nation like India and forcing sterilization? Is that what I am reading? And letting the people in starving nations die of starvation instead of feeding them?

    Boy, I thought you were just racist, now I see you are heartless too.

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    Alex Daniels

    3:52 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012

    Hey Ali, I dont see you flying out to these countries and giving up everything you have to help these starving people..where's your heart? Put up or shut up oh pious one before going to categorizing people..(I know, its the liberal way) jerk off

    Ali

    4:47 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012

    Alex, I was not talking to you. As for me, I give as much as my income dictates I can.
    Wendy has made a habit of making racist and insensitive comments on these boards. A statement advocating invading a country just to force sterilization upon its' women is beyond the pale. It go against the human rights of the women in that country, the nation's sovereignty, and it is beyond this country's mandate. And letting people starve when we are in the position to help is just inhumane.

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    Chloe Ross

    7:49 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012

    @Ali- The Gandhi clan did enforced sterilization in the emergency that began in 1971 when Indira and her sons suspended civil rights and lured men to the vasectomy booth for a snip in return for a transistor radio. The Gandhis thought it was brilliant.

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    Ali

    8:01 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012

    That may be true, but that was within their OWN country. They did not invade another country to do that to another country's citizens, which is what Wendy suggests we do.

    Chloe Ross

    7:51 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012

    And yes - letting people starve when we can help is inhumane and ugly. I also do what my income allows. People of humility and conscience tends to think this way.

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    Chloe Ross

    7:53 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012

    I can spellcheck my posts on my computer - use the edit function.

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    Chloe Ross

    8:27 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012

    @Ali - you are quite correct on that. And a good point.

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    Jim Patch

    3:37 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012

    Just what are those corporate tax loopholes? They're part of financing the government's boondoggles that Obama keeps pushing. GE made $14 Billion but paid no corporate tax.. why? Because GE agreed to buy 50,000 Chevy Volts, which the government insisted GM make but that nobody would buy. Why do the oil companies have loopholes? Once again, they get the tax breaks for investing in alternative energy resources, none of which are economically feasible, so they put their money into these useless energy sources that nobody wants to further the President's ill conceived policies.

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