Venice Community Housing Launches Pilot Project to Store Property of Venice Homeless 

Everybody talks about homelessness. Venice Community Housing Corporation does something about it. Find out about their efforts to help more Venice homeless get into emergency winter shelter.

(This is a reprint of an article in the current Venice Community Housing Monthly Newsletter)

In partnership with the City of Los Angeles and Council District 11, and with the support of the Venice Family Clinic, Occupy Venice and other Venice residents, Venice Community Housing has launched a pilot program to store the personal property of homeless people who wish to go to the City's winter shelter in West LA but have too many belongings to take with them to the facility.

The program, called Check-In Storage Venice, began on Saturday January 26th and will end on March 1 when the Winter Shelter program ends.

The Winter Shelter, located at the West LA National Guard Armory, accommodates up to 160 people and provides guests with a hot meal, showers and bedding, as well as on-site case managers to connect guests with housing and social services. The shelter takes no walk-ins, only people who come by bus operated by the shelter operator, First to Serve.

Shelter guests are allowed to bring with them only personal property they can carry on their laps on the bus. Because of this limitation, many people who would like to go to the shelter are not able to because they would be forced to leave their personal property unattended.  

According to Kirk Tyler, supervisor of the Shelter program, there is room for another 25-30 people at the Armory every night, and First to Serve doesn't want any bed to go unused.

To assist the Check-In Storage program, The City has provided VCH with a 10'x30' storage container which has been placed next to the Police Substation on Venice Beach close by the shelter bus pick up point at Market and the Ocean Front Walk, along with 25 new rollaway trash bins to be assigned for safe storage.  

VCH will open the locked storage container daily for two hours between 3 and 5 p.m. to allow people the opportunity to check in and check out property from their assigned bins.  

"This has been a miserable winter so far, with a lot of rain and temperatures dropping into the 30s on many nights," said Steve Clare, Executive Director of VCH.    

"We hope this program will allow more people to get off the ground and out of the cold, at least until March 1st."  

"Although Check-In Storage is a narrowly focused pilot project, we intend to build on this experience and work toward creating a year-round voluntary storage program for unhoused residents of our community" said Clare.

Such a program already operates successfully downtown in Skid Row and in other nearby cities. The LA Times recently reported on a storage program in Costa Mesa that, although initially met with resistance, now has wide spread support. A link to that article can be found here.  

VCH appreciates and thanks the Venice Neighborhood Council for its support. Special thanks are due to City Councilman Bill Rosendahl, who championed the program all the way and made it happen.

If you are interested in volunteering at the Storage program the next volunteer training session will take place Thursday, January 31st at 7 p.m. Contact Volunteer Coordinator Barbara Milliken to RSVP and for more details.  

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Spirit Of Venice February 06, 2013 at 09:06 AM
CONTINUED - 6 - No, my job doesn't depend on providing services. The Bible tells me that it pleases God when I concern myself with helping those in need…those less fortunate than myself. Of course, it is clear that such a motivation is inconceivable to you. 7 - I very much doubt your claims of selfless service to those in need, your post smacks of self-serving, self-interested greed and arrogant malice. 8 - Nobody is "keeping them at the beach". They want to be here, they have a right to be here and you shall not stop them from being here. 9 - For your information, drugs are easily obtainable throughout the city, liquor stores are accessible everywhere in L.A. and ex-convicts live throughout our metropolis. 10 - You claim to have considered this intelligently, but nothing in your post demonstrates the least bit of intelligence. You are a malicious liar, and we all see through you. 11 - What clearly gives us the higher moral ground is that we are being honest - as well as fair minded and compassionate towards those in our community who are facing the most dehumanizing and unhappy circumstances imaginable, while you are being dishonest about yourself and about the situation while selfishly and hatefully advocating that the unhoused and hurting in Venice be persecuted and driven out of Venice. - Shame on you. - Have a nice day. :-)
Betty Koch February 06, 2013 at 02:59 PM
The difference between Manhattan Beach and Venice is the residents vote for candidates that have the best interests of their community. Venice residents don't vote, that is why these problems exist. Voting is the only way to insure the future of Venice Beach. Then and only then will this nonsense go away. Enlisting homeless people and paying them to vote is voter fraud. These perpetrators need to be arrested and jailed for these practices.
Spirit Of Venice February 06, 2013 at 05:08 PM
Right. Mark Ryavec for City Council. Oh, wait, he's not on the ballot - even though he announced to the World his intention to be our next councilman. No problem. I am sure that a majority of the voters for Rosendahl's replacement - a position covering several communities besides Venice - will simply write his name in and his will be the landslide upset victory of all time. After all, he IS the president of the Venice Stakeholders Ass ociation.
Betty Koch February 06, 2013 at 07:06 PM
Mark Ryavec is a saint and is a god sent to the residents of Venice Beach. I like many other residents support the Venice Stakholders Association. It is the only group that is the voice for the residents of Venice Beach without hidden agendas. It make sense SOV feels threatened by the VSA because the VSA is growing stronger everyday. Mark keep the home fires burning.
Spirit Of Venice February 06, 2013 at 09:56 PM
Wow, Betty, what a revelation to find that you like Mark Ryavec. Who would have guessed? "Only group that is the voice of Venice Beach without hidden agendas" huh? There are so many false statements and misrepresentations in that one sentence that I don't know where to begin. No, Betty, as much as you would like to feed your megalomania with the notion that VSA is threatening anybody, it just ain't so. The spirit that is Venice was alive and well before you guys showed up, and it will be alive and well after you are long gone...and good riddance.
BOO HOO February 06, 2013 at 11:16 PM
Boo Hoo Spirit Of Venice past. We are not going anywhere, we are growing in numbers everyday with no thanks to the likes of you. If you don't like it SOV move!
Luther Higgins February 07, 2013 at 01:42 PM
Mark Ryavec didn't invent the rainy day SOV, your just mad, because he has the best umbrella. And that umbrella unfortunately for you SOV is the Stakeholders Association. Wake up to the fact SOV, theirs a new Sheriff in town and it's the Venice Stakeholders Association. SOV you can run your filthy mouth, but you can't hide from the truth. You and your kind are on their way out of Venice and know it. So stop with the sour grapes.
David Ewing February 07, 2013 at 05:01 PM
Spoken like a true vigilante.
killerweed February 07, 2013 at 05:27 PM
Yeah, Ryavec has a great umbrella, Luther, but the Venice Stakeholders is just a front for it. The umbrella really belongs to Larry Field and some of the other biggest property owners and developers in Venice (and on the westside). Remember you heard it here first when they run YOUR fanny out of town too because you can't afford what they want to charge! Maybe Mark Ryavec dropped out of the city council campaign because he didn't want to take the chance that someone would demand that he release his tax returns for public scrutiny.
Spirit Of Venice February 07, 2013 at 05:29 PM
MEGALOMANIA (noun) - 1-DELUSION ABOUT ONE'S OWN POWER OR IMPORTANCE (typically as a symptom of manic or paranoid disorder). 2-Obsession with the exercise of power, especially in the domination of others. - How sad that you feel that you have to "take over" and cause others to leave town in order to have a sense of your own value as a person. If life has truly reduced you to such a state, then I genuinely feel sorry for you. Please know that there is a God who loves you and wants to be your friend. The Bible says that if you will seek Him you will find Him.
Luther Higgins February 07, 2013 at 05:36 PM
I wonder what is going to happen to you David Ewing now that the political tides are turning on your movement in Venice. Patch is the only place left where you and your trolls can hide out thinking your in control. Your goon squads have been neutralized. I wish you farewell and don't let the storage locker doors hit you in the ass on you way out of Venice.
Spirit Of Venice February 07, 2013 at 05:40 PM
Oh yeah??? Why you...!!! Why, I oughtta....!!! Take THIS...(BIFF)...take THAT (BAAM)... there, I guess that showed you!!!!
concernedneighbor February 07, 2013 at 08:43 PM
That pretty accurately describes you as well SOV. Besides you and, your friends on this thead, and the other 800 people that voted for Linda Lucks - nobody really knows how the other 37,000 venice residents feel about any of these issues. The VNC should make more efforts to be inclusive and they also need to do a better job of publicizing their organization. Video taping, webcasting, and archiving all VNC meetings would be a good start (unless of course VNC leadership is afraid the other 37,000 folks might NOT agree with them and their agenda)...
Spirit Of Venice February 07, 2013 at 08:54 PM
The more I hear from you and people like you, CN, the more clear it becomes to me just how completely out of your minds you are. I don't know how I could ever have taken you seriously in the first place. - When you say that it describes me "as well", you are acknowledging that you do fit the definition of megalomania. - Anyway, it's OK, I have all day to play these silly schoolyard games with you guys...I'll say something, then you can jump in with your scathing condescending ridicule and malicious hateful put-downs, then I will respond and make clear to anyone reading how everything you are saying is distortion, lies, baseless slanders... how it utterly misses the point and is only designed to create dissension and bad feeling... and you can come back and say in essence "I know you are, but what am I?". - You guys are a sad and silly joke, and the prophecy stands...you lose...watch and see.
concernedneighbor February 07, 2013 at 09:18 PM
I think you have reading comprehension problems. I was responding to your post, where you were responding to Luther Higgins - which would mean that I was slightly admitting that his post might have sounded heavy handed. I was actually de-escalating the rhetoric and making a positive suggestion - let everyone in Venice be more aware of the things that the VNC is working on. Please respond directly to that comment and explain how that is 'distortion, lies, baseless slanders.' You also failed to comment on my post at the beginning of this thread where I agreed with you. It seems you are the one looking to play schoolyard games.
Spirit Of Venice February 08, 2013 at 07:01 PM
Let's set the record straight about Venice Neighborhood Council President Linda Lucks. I'm really sick of the sour-grapers boo-hooing their beer about how "she was only elected by a small percentage of Venice Residents". These were open elections. Every vote was counted.. She won two elections in a row by a margin of 2 to 1, despite a well funded, well orchestrated smear campaigns against her by Murk Pain-in-the-neck, I mean Mark Ryavec, and his goon-squad of lying, manipulating, self-serving megalomaniacal One-Percenter-wannabees. (You DO remember when Ryavec posted her personal information in one of his hate-blogs and invited people to harass her, resulting in more than one death-threat, right?) - VNC is involved in many worthwhile causes and issues affecting the quality of life for Venicians : SM Airport, Outreach, Visitor Impact, Budget, Education, Neighborhood, Arts, and Environment - to name just a few. - Instead of criticizing and complaining - maligning hundreds of people who care enough to actively participate - try visiting their website at http://www.venicenc.org. Sign up for their weekly emails, come to meetings, get involved, be productive and contribut to their efforts. - Linda has been a member of this community for over 40 years. She is a courageous, good natured, warm hearted, gregarious, intelligent, caring, hard-working and dedicated woman who is liked and respected by many. We are lucky to have her presiding over VNC.
concernedneighbor February 08, 2013 at 07:31 PM
Fact - 1,326 votes were cast for VNC President Fact - there are 38,000 people in Venice Fact - Linda got 832 Votes, Duncan got 494 Your Fact - she won by a 2-1 vote (she was ~156 votes short of a 2-1 victory - so you're either exaggerating or bad at math) Math Says - no more than 2.2% of Venice Voted for Linda Lucks Math Says - ~97.8% of Venice DID NOT vote for Linda Lucks Math Says - Linda speaks for ~2% of Venetians
Spirit Of Venice February 08, 2013 at 08:40 PM
Fact - the more you speak, CN, the more mentally unsound you reveal yourself to be. - OK, OK, you caught me. Linda didn't beat Duncan 2 to 1, she beat him 1.96 to 1. But, see, for purposes of discussion, that is close enough to two-to-one to just SAY "2 to 1". Four percent inaccuracy is negligible in terms of the point I was making. - As for the rest of your "facts", they really do help us all to see just how much you guys are willing to distort reality to try to support your position. What "math" REALLY "says" is : "Linda speaks for" (4% less than) two thirds of those who voted in the election." (although it is ludicrous to suggest that those who did not vote for her disagree with EVERYTHING she says - it is much more likely that they only disagree with her on certain hot-button issues). - Since we have no certain knowledge about how the other +/- 96.5% of Venetians (who did not vote in the VNC elections) feel, there is no basis for assuming that they disagree with anything Linda says. - Saying that "Linda speaks for 2% of Venetians" is a transparent attempt to marginalize and trivialize her views by distorting the facts. Of course, that's what you guys do best, so it comes as no surprise. - By the way, 98.2% of Venice didn't vote for Duncan either. By your "logic", Duncan only speaks for 1% of Venetians. (Hmmm…come to think of it, THAT is probably true!) - Anyway, you do provide some valuable entertainment. Thanks.
concernedneighbor February 08, 2013 at 09:12 PM
SOV - anyone that graduated from high school knows I am factually correct. Linda speaks for 2% of Venice. She does NOT speak for the other 98% since they did not vote for her. I'll even give you that Rick Duncan speaks for 1% of Venice. That means what we don't know what the other 97% of people in Venice think. and neither group can claim non-voters to be on their 'side'. That means you can't say things like 'all venetians are kind hearted and loving people that want to do the right thing and help the homeless in every way possible' or 'real Venetians think you are despicable haters' just like I couldn't say that 'nobody that owns a home wants homeless people sleeping in their yard'. I don't know. You don't know. So instead of saying Venice this and Venice that - you should start your sentences with '2% of Venice thinks'... BTW - While we're on numbers - while 90% of Americans believe in god - only 3 in 10 take the bible literally. So every time you quote scripture -- 70% think you are a simpleton. It also proves how self-centered you are - with less than half of LA's population identifying themselves as Christian - the other half might be offended if they weren't laughing at you. And yes - I heart you too. Please never stop posting here in Patch. Every time you open your mouth - educated, logical, pragmatic people on 'YOUR SIDE' cringe...
Sandy Teitelbaum February 09, 2013 at 05:44 AM
As one of the 98% who did not vote. I am applaud at Linda Lucks and her cohorts SOV and David Ewing. I am going to get involved alright with supporting the VSA.
Spirit Of Venice February 09, 2013 at 05:52 AM
Thanks, Sandy, for "applauding" Linda, David and myself. We will try to be worthy of your admiration and support.
Spirit Of Venice February 09, 2013 at 06:01 AM
I'm just trying to visualize this, CN. What do you do? Just sit down at your keyboard and free-associate? It is hard to imagine that you actually have something coherent that you want to say when you begin because...well...frankly what you DO wind up saying seems to be almost completely lacking in coherence. Not that you don't have just as much right to write (or is that "write to right"? Oh well, never mind) as anyone else, it's just that you don't really seem to have a point...other than how we all ought to be trying to get along. Maybe if the Jews had just tried a little harder to get along with the Nazis...but, that's another conversation. - I really ought to know better by now, and I do, but I just can't resist setting the record straight...again. I never claimed non-voters to be on "our" side, I just suggested that it is reasonable to assume that many of them are, and so saying that Linda ONLY speaks for 2% is almost certainly a low-ball mischaracterization intended to unfairly diminish the significance of her point of view on community issues. It would be reasonable to assume that at least half of the non-voters share her views. CONTINUED
Spirit Of Venice February 09, 2013 at 06:15 AM
CONTINUED - 2 - Thanks for the lesson in the non-validity of generalizations. Actually, I was already aware that statements like "All Venetians are kind hearted...ETC." are false...that's why I have never made such a statement...but...again...thanks for pointing out the obvious. (???) - "Every time you quote Scripture, 70% think you are a simpleton"? Wait a minute, didn't you just point out that one ought not say things like "All people who don't take the Bible literally think..."? You cannot possibly know what the 7 out of 10 believers who don't take the Bible literally think. For one thing, it is almost certain that those 7 people have 7 different opinions on any given Biblical issue. Where do YOU get off telling me what they think? - For another thing, very few Bible believers think that every word of it is intended to be taken literally...and I'm not one of them. It is generally agreed upon that some of what the Bible says is meant to be taken literally, and some of it is meant to be understood as figurative (and some of it needs to be recognized as being counterfeit). Which catagory to put any given Bible statement in is the subject of wide disagreement among believers...but i guarantee you that you will not find any believer who doesn't agree that what the Bible says about how God feels about the homeless is true. - CONTINUED -
Spirit Of Venice February 09, 2013 at 06:28 AM
CONTINUED - 3 - As I pointed out in my post entitled "What Does The Bible Have To Say About Homelessness" ( http://venice.patch.com/blog_posts/what-does-the-bible-have-to-say-about-homelessness ) , God is not happy with those who persecute the "poor brother in your midst". The majority of Christian and Jewish Bible-believers accept that this is a true statement - regardless of how much of the Bible they believe to be literal or how much they believe to be figurative. - Furthermore, I see nothing "simplistic" about my quotation of Scripture, nor in my understanding of it. Perhaps you would be so kind as to point out to me where my beliefs make me a "simpleton". I'm all ears. - I'm also having a little problem understanding your statement "It also proves how self-centered you are - with less than half of LA's population identifying themselves as Christian - the other half might be offended if they weren't laughing at you." Firstly, how does quoting Scripture demonstrate that I am "self centered"? You seem to be suggesting that my willingness to "offend" non-Christians is "self-centered". If so, then I am in good company - namely every other Bible-believer on the Planet. Are we all "self-centered" because we tell others what the Bible says, even though some might be offended by it? Hardly. - And then, there you go again, telling me that 50% of L.A. is laughing at me. How could you possibly know that? Didn't you just criticize the use of generalization? - CONT -
Spirit Of Venice February 09, 2013 at 06:38 AM
CONTINUED - 4 - Finally, you say "Every time you open your mouth - educated, logical, pragmatic people on 'YOUR SIDE' cringe...". - Wow. For someone who started the post with an admonition against making unfounded, unprovable and baseless generalizations, you sure seem to be a master of them. I will simply counter that educated, logical, pragmatic people on my side applaud every time I open my mouth...and well they should. - But let's go a little farther. You seem to think that I would care if those people did cringe when I said something, or that it would bother me if other Bible believers disagreed with my ideas and statements. You are wrong. While I am open to any and all good-natured discussion of my beliefs, and while there have been many times where both believers and non-believers have convinced me that I was wrong in some given belief, if I were convinced that I were right about something it would not matter in the least to me if I was the ONLY believer who thought so...certainly that has been the case many times for characters in Bible stories. Noah, for example. EVERYBODY thought he was wrong. He knew different, and it turned out that he was right. - Let me reiterate...God doesn't like it when you persecute, slander, rob and oppress the homeless. There will definitely be a price to pay. Don't say that you were not warned. - Thanks, CN, you're always a hoot.
concernedneighbor February 09, 2013 at 06:50 AM
Spirit Of Venice February 09, 2013 at 06:56 AM
Okaaaayyyyy.... hmm... well... let's see.... "checkmate" is what someone says when they make a chess move that leaves their opponent no way out... essentially it says "I just did something that destroys your position utterly and totally"... so, I'm assuming that when you respond to a four page statement with "checkmate", you mean that the result of that statement is that you have "won" the conversation. - Frankly, I am a little perplexed as to how this is true, but if it is, I guess all I can say is "congratulations".
Spirit Of Venice February 09, 2013 at 06:58 AM
On the other hand, maybe "checkmate" is really "Check, mate" - with "check" meaning "right, I see the truth in what you're saying", and "mate" meaning "friend" - so you would then be saying "Right, I see that what you are saying is true, friend." - If that is the case, all I can say is "congratulations".
Johnny Quest February 09, 2013 at 11:04 AM
Soon these storage units will be gone. What a bad idea that doesn't serve the community. I am sick of the homeless criminal panhandlers, they need to be driven out of town once and for all.
Spirit Of Venice February 09, 2013 at 07:10 PM
Just so you can't say you didn't know it, Johnny, I want to point out to you that your attitude stands in blatant opposition to God's on this issue, as reported in the Bible : - Deuteronomy 15:11 - For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’ - Just blatantly advocating running poor people out of town, as though there was nothing immoral or hateful about the idea, as though there was nothing to be ashamed of in having such an attitude, doesn't make it - or you - virtuous or right. - You probably don't believe in Karma either, but when you are on the other end of such a callous and insensitive declaration, maybe you will change your mind.


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